i3Bev
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New Owner from Denver!

Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:14 pm

2015 i3 BEV Giga World. I did not get the Rex since I only drive 28 miles or less a day and I wanted to go full electric. Took me a while to get the package I want and I did (Tech, Parking, Driving less HK sound system).

I also own an X5 E70. Past cars were E90 330i and E46 330i. I am a member of the Bimmperpost for i3 as well but the forum is very limited and boring :oops: (don't tell them!) so much more info here :D which I find more useful.

Also, I am thinking of getting a Tesla Wall connector using TeslaTap adapter J1772. Wondering if anyone has this setup and had some issues? I did not want to get the chargepoint since it's pretty much the same price or more than Tesla? The BMW i Wallbox is double the price of Tesla. Any thoughts?


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2015 i3 BEV
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alohart
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:27 pm

i3Bev wrote:Also, I am thinking of getting a Tesla Wall connector using TeslaTap adapter J1772.

What do you see as the advantage of a Tesla Wall connector? It requires an adapter unlike all other EVSE's. It doesn't charge any faster than any EVSE capable of outputting 32 A. It doesn't have WiFi connectivity and an associated app that provides all sorts of useful charging information.

An alternative worth considering would be the JuiceBox Pro 32. If you have a charging circuit rated for least 50 A and you want some future-proofing, consider the JuiceBox Pro 40.

If WiFi connectivity isn't important to you, there are a number of good 32 A EVSE's available that don't require an adapter and that aren't very expensive.
Aloha,
Art

2014 BMW i3 Arravani Grey, Giga World, Tech + Driving Assist, Parking Assist, DC Fast Charging, JuiceBox EVSE

i3Bev
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Wed Dec 12, 2018 2:30 pm

alohart wrote:
i3Bev wrote:Also, I am thinking of getting a Tesla Wall connector using TeslaTap adapter J1772.

What do you see as the advantage of a Tesla Wall connector? It requires an adapter unlike all other EVSE's. It doesn't charge any faster than any EVSE capable of outputting 32 A. It doesn't have WiFi connectivity and an associated app that provides all sorts of useful charging information.

An alternative worth considering would be the JuiceBox Pro 32. If you have a charging circuit rated for least 50 A and you want some future-proofing, consider the JuiceBox Pro 40.

If WiFi connectivity isn't important to you, there are a number of good 32 A EVSE's available that don't require an adapter and that aren't very expensive.


Thank you for responding! The reason is because I will be trading my X5 for a Tesla hopefully next year. My electrician will be installing a dedicated 220V 60A circuit.
2015 i3 BEV
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- Tech+Driving Assist
- Style 430 20” OE Staggered Wheels
- Rial X10-I 19” Wheels (Winter Setup)

jadnashuanh
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:18 pm

Not sure what the largest EVSE the Teslas can handle, but IF you have the capacity in your power panel, there are some advantages of going big, but it does cost more. The primary advantage is, obviously, a shorter time to full charge. Somewhat depends , on what your typical turn-around time is. IF you have all night, it's not that big of a deal, but could still be if your battery was nearly depleted. YOu can't hurt a properly functioning EV or EVSE by having one larger than needed. The Tesla box, though, doesn't necessarily mean that follows all of the J1772 protocols, it's just that the car, the adapter, and the box do enough to work with either when charging a Tesla.

The adapter seems to convert a J1772 EVSE to a Tesla plug, does it work the other way around, too?
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alohart
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:58 pm

i3Bev wrote:reason is because I will be trading my X5 for a Tesla hopefully next year. My electrician will be installing a dedicated 220V 60A circuit.

Your charging circuit would provide a maximum of 48 A of continuous current. A JuiceBox Pro 40 would provide a maximum of 40 A of continuous current. Assuming your Tesla's onboard charger is capable of charging at 48 A (any Tesla other than Model 3 Mid or Short Range), a Tesla Wall Connector would charge a Tesla up to 20% faster than a JuiceBox but without the capabilities that the JuiceBox's WiFi connection provides.

Most (all?) Teslas include a J1772 adapter that allows a Tesla to be charged by any J1772 EVSE like a JuiceBox, so you wouldn't have to buy an adapter unlike if you bought a Tesla Wall Connector.
Aloha,
Art

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theothertom
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:27 am

First of all, welcome to the forum. Like several of us here, I've also owned a progression of BMW ICE cars, starting with a 98 Z3 and ending with an E90 335i. I still visit bimmerfest occasionally, but, like you, I've found this forum has more info. If you're into Facebook, there are several i3 groups you can join.
Regarding chargers, be sure to look at the amps each one supplies. That way you'll be comparing apples to apples as far as charging time goes. In my opinion, I'd look at the juicebox and clippercreek models and see which ones compare to the Tesla charger. Then I'd decide based on price, especially if Tesla supplies an adapter so that you can use the J1772 connector on your Tesla. Note that clippercreek sells factory refurb models on their website. For future proofing, I'd install the highest rated breaker and associated wiring that your panel can reasonably supply. Make sure you take into account your other electrical loads (dryer, stove, etc) when deciding what size breaker to install.

i3Bev
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:13 am

jadnashuanh wrote:Not sure what the largest EVSE the Teslas can handle, but IF you have the capacity in your power panel, there are some advantages of going big, but it does cost more. The primary advantage is, obviously, a shorter time to full charge. Somewhat depends , on what your typical turn-around time is. IF you have all night, it's not that big of a deal, but could still be if your battery was nearly depleted. YOu can't hurt a properly functioning EV or EVSE by having one larger than needed. The Tesla box, though, doesn't necessarily mean that follows all of the J1772 protocols, it's just that the car, the adapter, and the box do enough to work with either when charging a Tesla.

The adapter seems to convert a J1772 EVSE to a Tesla plug, does it work the other way around, too?


Thanks for the input. The Teslatap allows other vehicles to utilize the Tesla connector, Tesla on the other hand, carry the SAE J1772 Charging Adapter for J1772 based EVSE.
2015 i3 BEV
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- Tech+Driving Assist
- Style 430 20” OE Staggered Wheels
- Rial X10-I 19” Wheels (Winter Setup)

i3Bev
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:16 am

alohart wrote:
i3Bev wrote:reason is because I will be trading my X5 for a Tesla hopefully next year. My electrician will be installing a dedicated 220V 60A circuit.

Your charging circuit would provide a maximum of 48 A of continuous current. A JuiceBox Pro 40 would provide a maximum of 40 A of continuous current. Assuming your Tesla's onboard charger is capable of charging at 48 A (any Tesla other than Model 3 Mid or Short Range), a Tesla Wall Connector would charge a Tesla up to 20% faster than a JuiceBox but without the capabilities that the JuiceBox's WiFi connection provides.

Most (all?) Teslas include a J1772 adapter that allows a Tesla to be charged by any J1772 EVSE like a JuiceBox, so you wouldn't have to buy an adapter unlike if you bought a Tesla Wall Connector.


I really didn't care about the wi-fi part but I realize it's nice to have. I am checking JB systems. Thank you!
2015 i3 BEV
- Giga World
- Parking Assist
- Tech+Driving Assist
- Style 430 20” OE Staggered Wheels
- Rial X10-I 19” Wheels (Winter Setup)

i3Bev
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Location: Colorado

Re: New Owner from Denver!

Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:21 am

theothertom wrote:First of all, welcome to the forum. Like several of us here, I've also owned a progression of BMW ICE cars, starting with a 98 Z3 and ending with an E90 335i. I still visit bimmerfest occasionally, but, like you, I've found this forum has more info. If you're into Facebook, there are several i3 groups you can join.
Regarding chargers, be sure to look at the amps each one supplies. That way you'll be comparing apples to apples as far as charging time goes. In my opinion, I'd look at the juicebox and clippercreek models and see which ones compare to the Tesla charger. Then I'd decide based on price, especially if Tesla supplies an adapter so that you can use the J1772 connector on your Tesla. Note that clippercreek sells factory refurb models on their website. For future proofing, I'd install the highest rated breaker and associated wiring that your panel can reasonably supply. Make sure you take into account your other electrical loads (dryer, stove, etc) when deciding what size breaker to install.


Thank you for welcoming me! I would definitely check out FB. I will check both JB and CC systems. Yeah I agree about the highest rated breaker. What system do you have at home if you have one setup?
2015 i3 BEV
- Giga World
- Parking Assist
- Tech+Driving Assist
- Style 430 20” OE Staggered Wheels
- Rial X10-I 19” Wheels (Winter Setup)

theothertom
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Re: New Owner from Denver!

Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:04 am

i3Bev wrote:Thank you for welcoming me! I would definitely check out FB. I will check both JB and CC systems. Yeah I agree about the highest rated breaker. What system do you have at home if you have one setup?

I struggled between JB and CC but ultimately went with a CC refurb unit, HCS-50, which is a 40 amp charger. CC also has a convenient wrap around feature for the cord and a J1772 holder that holds it "sideways" which is somewhat out of the way. They sell the holder separately if you wanted that feature but decided on the JB.

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