cmj912
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Re: Should I get one?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:41 pm

It is the receptacle. The OUC didn't give the power fault error at another outlet in the house...indoors. The electrician says the outlet needs to be rewired outside. So another trip to Chargepoint down the road. At least I figured out how to turn the heat on while I read the manual and drank a coffee. Hopefully we can get this figured out.

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Re: Should I get one?

Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:04 pm

It could be as simple as the hot and neutral are reversed, or the ground wire is loose. If you're not comfortable dealing with that sort of thing, it's time for a professional. If he has to rewire things, you may want to consider putting it on its own circuit breaker, and maybe make it a 20A circuit. The 20A circuit isn't a requirement, but it wouldn't hurt, and you may have something else you want to plug in there that might require it. If you think you may want a level 2 unit down the road, and he is going to rewire things, you might consider using even bigger wire so that it could be the source of say a 40A circuit. A 20A, 120vac receptacle won't fit, but he could easily put 12g pigtails on it to attach to the receptacle, and then, it would be easy to change the circuit breaker and later install an EVSE there (40A would let you hardwire up to a 32A EVSE and would require 8g wire, to do a 50A circuit with a plug would require 6g wire and would allow up to a 40A EVSE - more than the current i3 needs, but would allow for future use).
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cmj912
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Re: Should I get one?

Thu Dec 17, 2015 6:48 am

I should have mentioned. The electrician pulled the wire out and temporarily disconnected the outside outlet.
Apparently the receptacle was installed (originally, who knows when) without a ground wire.
The house was built in 1903.
Though the electrical panels are more modern the wiring isn't really all that great I guess.

He is coming back tonight to run brand new wire on a code-compliant outdoor outlet.

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Re: Should I get one?

Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:34 pm

xxiicenturyval wrote:cmj, i leased a 2015 i3 BEV in Warwick, RI in Aug for $11.5k off sticker price (including federal tax credit which BMW financial got). With gas being $2/gallon they are not selling too many i3s. The salesman told me in august that my i3 was the third they had sold this year. I think they will call you back. I heard the best deals are to be had just before the end of a quarter (end of DEC).
I am not sure if you thought about property taxes. Johnston, RI is atrocious: 4% of assessed value every year. Dealer gave me a tax estimate for the duration of the lease - 2 years: $3,600. I think Providence has even higher property taxes.
My experience: great city car: fast acceleration 0-30 mph (it is the fastest BMW from 0-30 according to my dealer), very short turning radius (parking is so easy), batteries are not being drained when you are stuck in 5 pm traffic - you just sit there and listen to everybody else's engine noise.
I average 1000 miles per month and only have an OUC to use at home and no work charger. I have had days when I drove 70 miles and plugged the car at 10 pm at home and had another 60-70 miles of range the next morning. OUC takes up to 20 hours if the batteries are deeply discharged. I think you will not need a level 2 EVSE unless you routinely drive 60-70 miles every day.
I am not sure the OUC is an outdoor charger or not.
I think you can easily go to your parents house in a BEV specially if you take the OUC with you.
BEV is also cheaper than rex and much simpler - maintenance every two years with no mileage limit.
BEV is lighter and thus more sporty while being the most fuel efficient mass market car in production currently (I read it online so it must be true).


Hey! I posted in the DC Fast Charge thread about seeing a new one. Since I remembered you are also in RI, maybe you do not know and would like to: the fast charger is in the Garden City Whole Foods parking lot.

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Re: Should I get one?

Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:09 pm

cmj912 wrote:
Hey! I posted in the DC Fast Charge thread about seeing a new one. Since I remembered you are also in RI, maybe you do not know and would like to: the fast charger is in the Garden City Whole Foods parking lot.


Thanks! I saw your post and have tried it out a couple of times as wfm is on my way home from work (sort of). I really like it and nobody else seems to use it (I does not work with the nissan leaf). The display on the orange box showed charging speeds varying from 22kw/hr to 10kw/hr. I would be interested in knowing why the variance.
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Re: Should I get one?

Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:12 pm

The charging rate drops off if the batteries get (or start) hot, and as it gets closer to being full. If you leave it on long enough, it tapers to almost zero.
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Re: Should I get one?

Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:28 am

Sorry to be pedantic :D , but:
...showed charging speeds varying from 22kw/hr to 10kw/hr.

Nope! It should have shown charging rates varying from 22kW to 10kW. In other words, 22kW-hours/hour, etc.!
Noteworthy cars I've owned previously: Lancia Aprilia ... 20kWh i3 Rex.

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Re: Should I get one?

Mon Feb 08, 2016 9:53 am

FrancisJeffries wrote:Nope! It should have shown charging rates varying from 22kW to 10kW. In other words, 22kW-hours/hour, etc.!


There is no mercy on this forum. None. :)

I appreciate the explanation about the varying charging speed. (Thanks Jim)
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cmj912
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Re: Should I get one?

Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:49 am

xxiicenturyval wrote:
FrancisJeffries wrote:Nope! It should have shown charging rates varying from 22kW to 10kW. In other words, 22kW-hours/hour, etc.!


There is no mercy on this forum. None. :)

I appreciate the explanation about the varying charging speed. (Thanks Jim)


There really isn't. :)

I don't think it is getting a lot of use because it doesn't work with the Leaf , yes. Pretty much the only cars that I think can use it are the i3 and the VW e-Golf, right?

Also, it seems to show up ONLY on the car's station menu, not on the Chargepoint app and not on Plugshare. I am trying to figure out how to add it.

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