Deutsch100
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:20 pm

Btw, I LOVED, LOVED the glass rear on my i3. It's really cool and easy to clean...Windex. LOL I thought it was a genius design!!
2019 i3 Sport Rex. Capparis White/Frozen Blue. 20" black wheels. Tech & Driving Assit Pkg, Moonroof. Deka World.

vreihen
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:13 am

One of my pet peeves with the i3 is the confusing labels on the two defrost buttons. It is not obvious which is the front defrost and which is the rear defrost from just looking at the similar icons.

Another pet peeve is that I have not figured out what turns the outside heated mirrors on yet. They don't appear to be triggered by either defrost button. I'm starting to wonder if this is the first car that I've owned since the 1980's that didn't come from the factory with heated mirrors, since there is no warning symbol on the mirror glass.....
2015 BMW i3 BEV, Giga World, Tech and Driving Assistant packages, 15K miles

Obioban
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:57 am

Deutsch100 wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:20 pm
Btw, I LOVED, LOVED the glass rear on my i3. It's really cool and easy to clean...Windex. LOL I thought it was a genius design!!
You should never use windex are car windows. They have coatings on them that the windex will destroy.

Deutsch100
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:42 am

One should not use ammonia Windex (or any ammonia glass cleaner) on tinted windows, but using Windex or similar window cleaners on exterior glass is fine. It's also safe for non-tinted interior glass as well.

What do you think the dealer uses? Car washes? Car detailers? If not actually the Windex brand, then a similar ammonia free glass cleaner.

Of course Windex cannot be used on paint, but it is made for glass ;)
2019 i3 Sport Rex. Capparis White/Frozen Blue. 20" black wheels. Tech & Driving Assit Pkg, Moonroof. Deka World.

i3Alan
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:11 pm

eNate wrote:
Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:29 pm
How many other cars do you know that have a glass tailgate as an aesthetic element? Or put another way, you could have chosen any other car and you'd have a non-glass tailgate.

I figure, we've got a slab of glass on the rear of just about every car on the road -- what's the harm in adding a second? I can't be down on it; I like the look.
I like the look, too. However, I didn't buy the i3 for its looks! I kind of like it, but it is an odd looking car with some strange visual attributes. The tailgate is one of the nicest looking tailgates on the market. However, hatchbacks are all that aesthetic to begin with! But this was not my point at all.

BMW made some tradeoffs in designing the rear hatch for the i3. On the one hand, it looks great, and that is a big plus. On the other hand, this is a non-serviceable unit of very significant cost (thousands), AND with very high vulnerability. Beautiful, but very easy to break, impossible to fix, and very expensive to replace. This was a poor choice of tradeoffs that is disrespectful of owner's maintenance liabilities.

A broken piece of glass should be replaceable at reasonable cost. Any failed tail light, brake light, or back-up light should be repairable at a reasonable cost. This is not the case for the i3. At least the spring struts which necessarily have a limited life can be replaced at a reasonable cost, like every other (non-Mercedes) hatchback.

Fisher99
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:21 pm

Perhaps a mitigating factor might be that since all i3 hatches are exactly the same you can find one at a salvage yard and just pop it on. No expensive paint matching required... :D

Obioban
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:22 pm

Deutsch100 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:42 am
One should not use ammonia Windex (or any ammonia glass cleaner) on tinted windows, but using Windex or similar window cleaners on exterior glass is fine. It's also safe for non-tinted interior glass as well.

What do you think the dealer uses? Car washes? Car detailers? If not actually the Windex brand, then a similar ammonia free glass cleaner.

Of course Windex cannot be used on paint, but it is made for glass ;)
Car windows all have film on them, so they don't shatter in crashes-- tinted or not.

I think dealers and car detailers use car glass cleaning products :P

gt1
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:54 pm

Obioban wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 2:22 pm

Car windows all have film on them, so they don't shatter in crashes-- tinted or not.

I think dealers and car detailers use car glass cleaning products :P
AFAIK windshields and some windows have internal film between the layers of glass, you can't damage it with Windex. Other windows are tempered glass and will shatter into cubes on impact.

jfran2
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:26 pm

You should never use windex are car windows. They have coatings on them that the windex will destroy.
I've never heard that. Do you have some documentation?

vreihen
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:23 am

jfran2 wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:26 pm
You should never use windex are car windows. They have coatings on them that the windex will destroy.
I've never heard that. Do you have some documentation?
Is there a warning printed on a Windex bottle? Given the litigious society that we live in today where even coffee cups have warnings on them, that's where I would start my search.....
2015 BMW i3 BEV, Giga World, Tech and Driving Assistant packages, 15K miles

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