Boxbrownie
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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:51 am

If the 2016 i3 update (if there is one) can manage 120 miles a charge that'll be my name on the order book straight away, under 100miles had always seemed a bit half arsed.

Don't get me wrong though.......I have driven the i3 several times now and it is the best EV by far IMO, but the range (since we both retired and became a one car family) has been a sticking point, as we have family quite spread around the country.

But if the new ReX can manage 200 miles without stopping.............bring it on, we'll be driving around in a car that has looked like the future very soon indeed.
Best regards........David

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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:52 am

psquare wrote:
Boxbrownie wrote: " What that equates to is a real-world range in excess of the previous model's quoted figure, which is rather impressive."
;)
You're right. 30 more miles. Wow.

:)
Well if the next charge point is 29 miles away, that smile might be more genuine :lol:
Best regards........David

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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 4:04 am

fdl1409 wrote:I expect BMW will offer the new larger battery from early 2016, as until 31st Dec. there is a discount for the present model in Germany. The new Samsung 94 Ah cells raise capacity and range by 56%, which is quite some leap. Those cells AFAIK have exactly the same dimensions as the old 60 Ah cells, so there is no need to change packaging. A seamless change from 60 to 94 Ah is possible. The next generation with 120 Ah cells is expected in 2019.

Frank
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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 6:26 am

sorry, post with redundant info (apparent recycling of OP's post) I have removed the contents myself.

-Steven-

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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:08 am

The cost of a replacement battery pack may make it more reasonable to trade in the car. Hard to say until it becomes available, and then, it would only make sense if your old one didn't meet your current needs. There is very likely a moderate amount of residual value in the existing pack, but that, again, is still up in the air. WIth the factory 8-year warranty, I probably would not be in the market for new batteries, but maybe by then, might want a new car to brighten things up from the wear over that time. Given the nature of how body panels are attached, it may even be possible to give the car a new exterior look as well.
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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:49 am

jadnashuanh wrote:Given the nature of how body panels are attached, it may even be possible to give the car a new exterior look as well.
Botox for your i3 does not appeal.
Roger

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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Sat Oct 31, 2015 12:07 pm

Just took the time to watch a US motoring show which was posted up on the UK i3 Facebook group with featured guest Sandy Munroe; who, ( as an Industry insider), let slip that the i5 would be using a Fuel cell which BMW did as a tech swap with Toyota see at 31:30:- https://youtu.be/uDr4L6BzpP8
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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Sat Oct 31, 2015 5:24 pm

BMW has also said that they think it will be two more generations of development on the fuel cell before it is really ready for prime time and anything out there now has a lot of compromises. THey indicated that their thoughts were a generational breakthrough took about 5-years, so we're talking prime time starting 2025 or so. Chicken/egg, you can't sell them widespread until the infrastructure exists. They are intended for long range travel...kind of useless unless you can refill it. Same issue we're having now with CCS recharging stations. Great if you live near some and you don't need to travel outside of that area. This is the primary reason why Toyota has a very limited area where it will be selling it's fuel cell vehicle.

I do believe that fuel cell technology has a place in the mix, and will become at least one power source, but keep in mind, while the car itself would be pollution free, making the hydrogen comes with its own problems and energy costs...hydrogen really doesn't like to be out there on its own...breaking it out of wherever it is takes a good amount of energy, as well as the power it takes to compress it to a useful consistency. And, at least today, one common source is to break it out of natural gas...leaving a lot of CO2 to be disposed of. A surplus of electrical power could get it from water, but we don't have a surplus electricity nor, at least in some places (say California for example) a lot of water to crack into H2 and O2.
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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Sat Oct 31, 2015 10:38 pm

Munro's i5 prediction is based on two factors. First, BMW and Toyota have a partnership to share developments in carbon fiber and fuel cell technologies among others. Expect to see future Toyotas employing more carbon fiber while BMW rolls out fuel cells. Second, CARB ZEV rules taking effect in 2017 favor FCVs over BEVs. The so-called travel rule for BEVs expires in 2017 yet remains in effect for FCVs until 2025.

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Re: BMW i talks about larger EV, increased i3 range in 2016

Sat Dec 05, 2015 1:54 pm

Anyone heard an update on the updated range car? I'm looking to lease in DEC and the dealers are saying they don't have a clue when the new battery is coming out.

When do the 16s arrive?

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