EVMan
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Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon May 07, 2018 4:10 pm

Is there a pedestrian warning sound possible , while in reverse , or low speeds , in the i3 ? like in the leaf
Can this be achieved by coding ?
If yes, i will request this feature from beemercode.

I goto children's school, and would like to be safer in the parking

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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon May 07, 2018 6:44 pm

The pedestrian warning is an option in other countries that (I think, works up to about 19mph or so). I do not know if it also works in reverse. So, the parts exist but whether you could buy them or figure out how to make it work, I don't know. It isn't something coding can activate without the requisite hardware. At least, I think it requires extra hardware. I didn't find it listed on www.realoem.com, so maybe coding can do it, or I missed it.
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jajar
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Sun Apr 19, 2020 5:40 am

Yes you will find it on Bimmercode / OB2 I did then put it off it annoyed me it does it when reverse is selected

JohnWasser
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Sun Apr 19, 2020 9:53 am

The optional Vehicle Sound Generator is shown on realoem.com in the “Audio, Navigation, Electronic Systems” page. Here it is for my 2017 REx:
https://www.realm.com/bmw/enUS/showpart ... Id=65_2545

It appears to mount in the front right corner of the car:
https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/i01- ... 1VnXWlEduD

To add one you will need the ‘speaker’, the mounting bracket, and the mounting screws.

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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Sun Apr 19, 2020 2:41 pm

I think that I'd read the US Feds will (or have) started to require the sound generator. SO, it's likely that newer vehicles will get it in the USA. I haven't looked at the spec list on the newest i3s for awhile.
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Timjohn
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:31 am

I just received my 2020 i3S and it has the pedestrian sound (Canadian market). Thought about disabling it but got used to it so it stays.

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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:44 am

The NHTSA rule is a little confusing in its roll-out.

Sept 1 2019 was the 50% phase in date, and Sept 1 2020 will mark the 100% date. July 2019 was the date for EU compliance.

Apparently there is enough variation between the EU and US regs that the manufacturers were granted the 2020 extension so they could get their designs in order. The main I'm seeing is 19 km/h (EU) vs. 30 (18.6 MPH) (US). Both apply in either direction, as long as the vehicle is being propelled by something other than an internal combustion engine.

What's interesting is the petition to allow user selectable sounds. There's also a back-and-fourth with Honda discussing "trim level" / "series" Honda. I'd guess this came about due to their EV / Hybrid / ICE models sharing badges, but I bet this will open up as a branding opportunity (for example, Tera World trim might emit a "more premium" sound compared to a base i3).

In the press, there's been discussion that ICE vehicle can be as quiet as EVs at the slow speed range where AVAS is being required to generate noise. That brings even more questions!
- In the future, will this rule be adapted to include quiet ICE cars?
- Will ICE owners begin modding their cars with these systems as it becomes a status symbol for EV owners
- Are EV owners in large numbers going to disable these systems?
- Will third party noises become popular so an EV can sound like a throaty V8 or an ice cream truck?
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 am

There is NO "Pedestrian warning noise, in reverse" in my US version 2019 BEV.
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eNate
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:45 am

OLDBMWGUY wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 11:29 am
There is NO "Pedestrian warning noise, in reverse" in my US version 2019 BEV.

Nope, 2020 M.Y. in the US.
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Re: Pedestrian warning Noise , in reverse

Mon Apr 20, 2020 12:30 pm

Our 2012 Mitsubishi i-MiEV had a standard pedestrian warning sound (ahead of its time? :o ) I felt that adding noise to our noisy environment was a step in the wrong direction even though I understand why some want a pedestrian warning system. I would have preferred for this warning sound to be controlled by the driver like a quiet horn that the driver could activate in situations where moving along slowly might endanger some people. Exiting down 2 floors in our parking garage with no one around and our pedestrian warning sound echoing off the garage's concrete walls, floors, and ceilings seemed excessive and unnecessary.
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