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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:21 pm

Valleeboi02 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm

But why bother...

Did you bother? ...to read the first sentence of the first post of this thread?

I mean, Fisher started by saying his short list of dislikes was easier to write than the long list of "likes" on a car he "loves." I think this sentiment in this thread has mostly stayed in that vein.

Face it, even the "perfect" car is a compromise. there's always something somebody wants that that car doesn't offer. Except for i3Alan, but he didn't know he was buying a car with a grenade in the AC compressor.
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:50 pm

Valleeboi02 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:09 pm
But why bother to even buy the i3 if the dash looks cheap?

Why bother to buy if there are no rear door audio speakers?

Why bother to buy if there are no power seats?

Why bother to buy if there is no AutoPilot?

Why why why?? It makes no sense to buy a car you know does not have the features you want but yet complain that the features are not there..

My i3 has a leather and wood dash..
My doors are leather and wool and plastic.
My i3 has rear door speakers.
My i3 has ACC and TJA autonomous driving.

I was fully aware before buying my i3 that it is a cheap economy box made with sub par materials and build quality and lacked many features that other EVs have. The i3 is far from a posh performance car..
As the person who started this thread, I think you are missing my point. Which was that I love this car so much that, after several months of ownership, the only negatives that I can think of are extremely minor, nit picky issues. Others have chimed in and, for the most part, have only reinforced the basic goodness of this wonderful little car. While the title of the thread may indicate a dissatisfaction with the car, the original post, and most of the following posts, certainly point out it is just the opposite. Most of us love the car, which is why we keep driving it. But that doesn't mean that it's perfect.
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Wed Dec 30, 2020 10:13 am

[/quote] aven't tried this on my i3, but on my wife's 535i, you can press the "P" button on the console and it turns on the camera and sensors. I'd be surprised if it doesn't work that way on the i3 too. Will give it a try later when I'm back home.
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Thanks....i did try this immediatly after you posted this ages ago. Sorry for the slow reply.

It works...but is one more distraction to deal with.

My Wife's Pacifica van has a beautifully responsive warning that needs no prompting.
If only my BMW was a Chrysler eh!

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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:20 am

Hello all,

Haven't been on this site since we bought the car and needed advice. Have now had our 2017 i3 for nearly 3 years (ex-demo) and 50 000kms.

Generally we love driving it for all the EV reasons, especially my wife as it covers up the things that irritate her about ICE/manual cars. Personally we love the looks and here in South Africa it is generally met with much admiration......Been getting 3.9 miles per kW average so quite happy with that. We charge mainly from solar so running costs are negligible and we notice the savings in diesel costs.

Even take it to Cape Town (550kms) regularly as there are now fast chargers all the way. The difference in range between cold, windy and fast and warm, still and slower is about 35%!! That can reduce the range to under 130km which is a bit of a bummer.

It has been reliable with only a few things addressed during services - steering wheel airbag; sticky fuel cover; and some minor recalls.

There are three major dislikes (and they will make me change to another EV when they become available here):-

1) Road noise on rough tar. So loud and miserable that it makes chatting or listening to music difficult. No alternatives in tyres to address this.

2) The clam shell/suicide rear doors which are just a constant irritation every time we have to use them for passengers or loading. Why oh why, BMW, when this is an urban car?

3) The steering is very poor which makes the handling when driving fast unpredictable. How BMW got this so badly wrong I have no idea.

The steering has been checked by BMW (alignment/tracking as well) and declared correct and to spec. It is sticky around the centre which removes the ability to smoothly steer around the straight ahead position. It also suffers from bump-steer so sweeping corners with any undulations have the car moving all over the road. It also results in the car running wide or, conversely, ducking into corners. Even in a straight line at speed the car can feel so 'nervous' that passing vehicles, especially trucks, is far more nerve shredding than it should be.

Driving in the wet is less secure than it could be due to the steering inadequacies.

Some people blame the narrow tyres but this is a poor reason.

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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sat Jan 09, 2021 5:15 pm

Which tire setup do you have on your vehicle? That can make a difference as can the alignment and tire pressures.
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:31 am

3) The steering is very poor which makes the handling when driving fast unpredictable. How BMW got this so badly wrong I have no idea.

Hello, GuyD –

Having owned BMWs for more than 20 years, I've found the i3 to be one of BMW's best in terms of steering.

Early on, I did have a problem with the steering being loose – BMW NA replaced portions of my 2014's steering column over two service visits in 2015. That brought the steering back to spec where it's remained since.

The electrically-assisted power steering in my 2014 i3 is so much better than that in BMW's current cars. When my i3's been in for service I've had loaner F30 3ers, X2s, M235is, even a 2020 F44 235i Grand Coupe and the steering feel is so much worse in these cars.

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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sun Jan 10, 2021 5:00 am

GuyD wrote:
Sat Jan 09, 2021 4:20 am
Hello all,

Haven't been on this site since we bought the car and needed advice. Have now had our 2017 i3 for nearly 3 years (ex-demo) and 50 000kms.

3) The steering is very poor which makes the handling when driving fast unpredictable. How BMW got this so badly wrong I have no idea.

The steering has been checked by BMW (alignment/tracking as well) and declared correct and to spec. It is sticky around the centre which removes the ability to smoothly steer around the straight ahead position. It also suffers from bump-steer so sweeping corners with any undulations have the car moving all over the road. It also results in the car running wide or, conversely, ducking into corners. Even in a straight line at speed the car can feel so 'nervous' that passing vehicles, especially trucks, is far more nerve shredding than it should be.

Driving in the wet is less secure than it could be due to the steering inadequacies.

Some people blame the narrow tyres but this is a poor reason.
I think something is wrong with your specific car. I test drove a few different cars and bought one last year and none had the issues you describe.

We are driving quite a lot of highway - at a 120km/h , the car is solid. Don't know how fast you can drive in South Africa?
Many people are getting wheel spacers - which are apparently increasing the stability at high speed. 12/15mm at the front and 15/17/20mm in the back. That would be something cheap you can try.


Just thought: You could have a damage shock absorber. That would pretty much explain all the symptoms you have.
It shows up perfect on alignment but drives like crap.

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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:34 am

I've mentioned this before . Because of the higher ride height and narrower wheel base combination , whenever there are uneven undulations in the road , it might seem that the car is being pulled off course when in fact it tracks perfectly straight with steering wheel left in the center . When the car tilts due to the road , it is sensed more due to the ride height/wheel base ratio (edit-and firm suspension) . We need to understand this . This should be explained to any new i3 driver .
When I got my first i3 , initially I was reacting to what I thought was the car being pulled off course . Once I understood that it was not the case , I went over the same bumpy street leaving the steering wheel in the center and the car tracked perfectly straight .
My suggestion is that this precise straight tracking steering setup is one of the steps toward autonomous driving .
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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:06 am

CanisLupus wrote:
Sun Jan 10, 2021 6:34 am
When I got my first i3 , initially I was reacting to what I thought was the car being pulled off course . Once I understood that it was not the case , I went over the same bumpy street leaving the steering wheel in the center and the car tracked perfectly straight .
My suggestion is that this precise straight tracking steering setup is one of the steps toward autonomous driving .
I mean it makes sense that self driving car is designed to mechanical drive more straight - needs less processing power in the computer, instead of having a vehicle which wants to run of to one side all the time.

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Re: Things I Dislike About My i3

Sun Jan 10, 2021 10:37 am

I have been in my 2020 i3S now since Sept. 27 and before than I had a 2019 i3S. I find the i3 to be rock solid at freeway speeds (granted I have never taken either i3 over 80 mph). I find the steering as good (or better) than current/modern BMW ICE cars.

I agree with the member above that mentions on roads with uneven concrete or asphalt, especially at highway speeds it might feel as if the i3 is moving or tracing a bit, but I believe it is just a sensation. My past two heavy Jaguars would do the same with the strange air suspension they use.

I have had personally at least 12-15 BMWs since the early 1990s (and my spouse prob 5-6) and the i3 is in my top 3 fav BMWs ever. It makes me smile every time I see it and I look forward to drive it every opportunity I have. In fact, it gives me more joy than many 6 figure cars I have owned.
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