Trustyct
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It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:13 am

BMW has a monopoly with Bridgestone to sell us bad tires that fall apart in less than 10K miles. Funny how they don’t even allow paying extra for warranty. My dealer said it’s a huge $$$ maker. I’m filing a class action on this scam. Why didn’t they tell us BEFORE selling us the cars that there was a “non compete” and stuck with garbage tires exclusively by 1 brand s as need new tires every 6 month?

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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Mon Jul 12, 2021 10:23 am

I have read that i3 summer or all-season tires by other manufacturers are available in some markets which invalidates your claim that BMW prevents tire competition, so your class action suit could be crushed by BMW assuming that any lawyer would file your suit.

Buying tires at a BMW dealer would almost certainly be more expensive than buying them elsewhere.

Also, most of us drive significantly farther than 10k miles on our Bridgestone tires, so you should be able to do something to increase the life of your tires.
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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Mon Jul 12, 2021 7:26 pm

A local dealer quoted me almost exactly twice as much as Costco. I agree that the thread life is miserable, but the prices are reasonable.

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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Tue Jul 13, 2021 8:11 am

Tirerack is also a great source for i3 tires. Similar prices to Costco, and free overnight shipping to most places in the USA. The even have mobile installers in many cities, who come to you with a fully equipped tire-shop-in-a-van and will install them in your driveway (as a bargain rate compared to other shops).

And a little searching will pull up other owners who have opted for totally different tires, using spacers etc. for a good fender fit.
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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:23 am

Continental tires also exist.

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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Fri Jul 16, 2021 9:50 am

Continental tires also exist.
The Continental Eco Contact 6 tires are not sold in the USA unfortunately.
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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Sat Jul 17, 2021 5:38 am

There are other brands that makes tires compatible with the R19 rims in 155 and 175 if we don't want the Bridgestone Ecopia

Michelin e-Primacy
Continental Eco Contact
Nankang Econex
Tourador I Power
Pirelli Cinturato
Goodyear Ultra grip

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Re: It’s a cash cow the bad tire scam

Tue Oct 12, 2021 5:38 pm

1981 Porsche 911 Targa - 255 rear tires 235 fronts, Kumho MX tires with a tread wear rating of 180. I was lucky to get 10K miles out of the rears, 20K out of the front. Typically two sets of rears to one set of fronts.

1991 BMW 318i - 235 wide all around - same deal as above 2 sets of rears to to 1 set of fronts, since I do not rotate the tires all 4 get replaced every 30K miles, since it is a weekend car that happens infrequently.

2004 BMW 330i - 255 wide rear 235 wide front - ran performance summer tires on in (Florida) purchased with 75K miles on it, sold with 175K miles on it, in the 100K miles we drove it we went through 3 sets of tires all lasting about 30K each die to the performance rating.

2014 BMW i3 - 175 rear 155 front (lol so tiny) current mileage 72K miles - purchased with 25K miles, replaced all 4 at 50K miles with some life left in them. Now at 72K miles the rears could be replaced but still have life so we are pushing the limits.

2016 Toyota PriusV - Soulless commuter that sucks the life out of you when you drive it. I am unsure what size tires it has on it, I know it has over 50K miles on the mismatched POS tires Carmax tossed on it before I bought it 2 years ago. It is a fleet vehicle for my company, the tires still have life and I am changing them next month just so I do not have to think about it for 2 years and another 60+K miles.

2006 Toyota Tacoma 2WD standard pickup - again no idea what size tires because it is another soulless vehicle that just goes from A-B for my work duties - tires on it were put on almost 2 years ago and 50K miles, nearing end of life will contemplate replacing next year after I pass 60K miles on it.

2007 Toyota FJ Cruiser - 3" Lift 285 wide A/T tires never wear them out, typically get over 50K out of them and they dry rot before I can wear them out, great off road, on road? LOL!! Gas mileage? LOL 16 MPG on a good day.

Lesson learned? If you want a car that is a bore to drive and handles like a horse drawn buckboard - get a Toyota - problem free driving no soul.

Look at ze German cars, lots of camber = handling softer tires = grip. The camber is the tires killer, BMW dials it into all their cars, there is no getting around it.

I have not owned a German car yet that gets more then 30K miles out of a set of tires.

If this is your deal breaker.... may I suggest a Prius?

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