benrk
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Sun Apr 07, 2019 11:57 am

As I’m just about to ship an i3 to an area where they are not very common & I can pretty much expect no one in the area to cary stock in tires for the foreseeable future, has anyone ever researched compatible „donut“ spare tire sizes? Iirc the i3 has 5 & 112 bolt pattern, is there a chance to find something compatible at a wrecker from an MB ML/GL?

Thx, Ben

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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:56 am

Nobody around here stocks i3s tyres. We have to order them from Germany.
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Mon Apr 08, 2019 7:03 pm

AndrewDebbie wrote:Nobody around here stocks i3s tyres. We have to order them from Germany.
That may sound like a pain, but it's shorter distance than across the US, and much further than from Germany. STill, in air freight across the pond, it's still only a day. Much longer by boat. In your case, even a freight train is probably not much more than a day.
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:22 am

Delivery is about 3 days. It probably goes on a truck via the Eurotunel but there are other routes. Some people on the UK i3 FB group keep extras on hand. Others have a winter set they can put back on while waiting. For the i3s that means getting winter wheels too.

I'm American. I've lived in the UK about 10 years. When I lived in the US, I had tyres air shipped from England. It wasn't too expensive. I was surprised. Of course you need to find a seller willing to go through effort.


It is convenient that we can order things from Germany and have them here a few days. Many even have websites in English. No hassles with import duty or customs brokerage fees. I've got an genuine BMW i3 dog guard on the way from Germany. Fingers crossed that Brexit doesn't ruin this for us.




Off-topic but we get small package rail-mail all the way from China. S l o w but is very inexpensive.
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Fri May 03, 2019 6:56 am

Any thoughts on using tires listed below?

BMW i3 Tires & Conversion [Size Diameter Width] inches

Front 155/70R19 27.56 6.10
Rear 175/60R19 27.28 6.89


Compatibale Tires [Size Diameter Width] inches
F&R 195/65R16 25.98 7.68

F&R 205/55R17  25.87 8.07

F&R 225/55R18 27.76 8.86

F&R 225/55R19 28.74 8.86

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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Wed May 08, 2019 1:30 pm

Just a note on tread life......
All electrics burn thru tyres faster, including Teslas. Electrics have torque and that's equals abuse on your tyres even when going lite on the juice. Was on test drive for a model 3 few months back and sales rep laughed when I asked if it would get better miles than my i3. Was told to never expect more than 15-18k miles or 28980km from a set. Incidentally, I chose to go with another i3 😀

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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Sun May 26, 2019 1:53 pm

The upcoming Mini Electric is reported to use the complete i3 drivetrain, except it's to be FWD, rather than RWD. It'll be interesting to see if it's wheels will bolt up to the i3 hubs. I suspect that they will if it's the same drivetrain, but offsets may be a problem. Looking forward to what the wheel/tire combo is for the Mini Electric and whether it's an improvement over the i3's tires. I'd really like to see a more "normal" set of sizes so that we would have a choice in tires.
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Fri May 31, 2019 5:17 am

ted99 wrote:
Sun May 26, 2019 1:53 pm
The upcoming Mini Electric is reported to use the complete i3 drivetrain, except it's to be FWD, rather than RWD. It'll be interesting to see if it's wheels will bolt up to the i3 hubs. I suspect that they will if it's the same drivetrain, but offsets may be a problem. Looking forward to what the wheel/tire combo is for the Mini Electric and whether it's an improvement over the i3's tires. I'd really like to see a more "normal" set of sizes so that we would have a choice in tires.
Very much doubt that, as the Mini will be front wheel drive it will use completely different hubs than the i3 (most likely normal Mini hubs) and looking at the Mini EV early pictures the wheels are not the “tall and very narrow” type that the i3 uses.

As for sourcing i3 tyres, I needed a new set recently and two local independent tyre dealers had them in stock at their warehouse (next day delivery and fitting) and my local BMW dealer also had them in stock and would price match the tyres dealers, no contest then.
Best regards........David

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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Fri May 31, 2019 9:12 am

Stupid question - Did BMW really use a different hub size on the i3 and Mini? Both appear to be using 5x112 bolt patterns from a quick web search that I did. I assume that they are both hub-centric, so the only reason why they couldn't be crossed over (wheel offsets and rubbing aside) would be that the center hub were different sizes between the two. The 2015+ Mini appears to even be using the same hub diameter and lug bolts, hence why I'm scratching my head.....
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Re: NON OEM wheels & tires (wider)

Fri May 31, 2019 1:18 pm

I assume that they are both hub-centric, so the only reason why they couldn't be crossed over (wheel offsets and rubbing aside) would be that the center hub were different sizes between the two.
Both the Mini Cooper and the BMW i3, have the same hub size. The hub center bore is 66.6 mm for both.

As you noted, the difference comes in the offset. the i3 wheel has a positive offset of 43 mm front and 53 mm rear , and 33/39 mm for the i3S - and size of wheel.

The Mini Cooper shows an offset of anywhere from 46 mm to 54 mm depending on the wheel size ( 14" to 18")

Not sure I'd want to try the smaller Mini Cooper wheel on a car that OEM's a 19 though, you'd get that 'Ricer' look, and you'd be dragging the battery pack on the pavement every time you hit a bump. :mrgreen:

This site will allow you to see and compare specs.

https://www.wheel-size.com/
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