mindmachine
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jadnashuanh said:Even if you can turn the REx on early, as you can (you may not, forget, and easily run into a similar problem) elsewhere, if you continue to exceed the ability of the REx to keep up, you WILL run into exactly the same situation everywhere. What BMW did was to shift the responsibility on the user, but exactly the same end game can show up in Europe and elsewhere as in the USA. Does that make theirs dangerous?
You cannot continue to draw down the SOC and expect to keep up if you are going to drive long enough and hard enough under those adverse conditions and keep going.
The top speed on the i3 is well above any legal speeds posted in the USA, and it CAN do them, but like any car, EV or not, the faster you drive, the faster you run out of energy to keep going. The i3 REx does that somewhat more gracefully than running out of fuel on the side of the road - at least with the REx and a nearly dead battery, you can keep going as long as you have some fuel, even if it is in a degraded mode. On an ICE, run out of fuel, you're dead in the water.
I hope never to run into the 'can't move' situation on my BEV, but if I do, I won't blame BMW for it, just like I wouldn't if I ran my car out of gas...it's MY responsibility, not theirs, to keep it fueled so it works to my expectations (as long as they are based on reality, not wishful thinking!).
You keep missing the whole point, the Rex was bastardized/hampered/crippled in the US version for the sake of corporate greed with out regard to the safety ramifications of their decision. At least with the European version software, you would be able to engage the Rex on a long trip or in hilly terrain and where you may even be able to pick up DC rapid charging along the way and have the extra flexibility. Any idiot knows you cant run you vehicle out of fuel, the issue here is the Rex can have a full tank and when the battery charge goes down to 6.5% you are just almost already basically in cripple mode. Really getting tired of you BEV only people telling us there is no difference between the two as it is the Rex owners fault that they aren't thinking and did not do their homework.
BMW did not communicate these limitations to there potential customers and is still tight relatively lipped about their continuing modifications. The KLE problem as a new example, while doing a little better they are still far from being transparent.
You maintain that this is only a city car, well ok in the USA in our big cities you have to take the interstate to get from one side of town to the other and that involves keeping up with the traffic. Power loss in the car in the big city due to speed is a big issue, especially if it happens to soccer Mon with 2 or 3 kids in the car and the car looses power and can't keep. Not all big cities are flat either here on the east coast and Midwest. Let me tell you the loop around Chicago, it scares me when I am in my ICE car. I can't imagine loosing power and having to do 25 MPH and try to even get over to the right lane to get out of the way of suicide drivers like they are there.
Finally I think it is criminal what they did the the REx in one more way, resale value will certainly be hurt by the reduced capability of the Rex in the US. No matter it will scare some people away and naysayers will have a field day with it too. Especially if something bad happens in rush hour sometime in one of our megalopolises. The media will be on it like stink on shit.
You can say it won't come back to bite BMW big time but I bet you it will, they will be liable just you wait till something bad happens. Remember Audi unintended acceleration, remember Prius floor mat issue, and unintended acceleration. There have been others, guaranteed BMW will be in court over this issue and it will cost all of us when it happens, not just BMW. I had an Audi back then, resale values plummeted.