AviatorMan
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 7:18 am

elptex wrote:I'm getting more and more pissed off that people in the US can order an i3 now and get it in 2 months...yet I ordered mine 3 months ago and still have 4 months to go! Bull shit. My frustration due to the need for a 2nd car has me seriously considering cancelling my order and getting something else.
Yes but are those typical situations? I don't think the current wait time for a US i3 is two months, although I don't know exactly what that time is.
I went on the 'list' in December, paid in a deposit on January 25th, and that exact car will be handed to me about August 5. During the time I was waiting just to order I was reading posts from UK owners who were driving theirs. So it cuts both ways.

brianives
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:56 am

I'm in the same boat, literally, as AviatorMan. I put a deposit down last November, got my order finalized as soon as BMW Seattle would allow, in January, and am waiting for the Carmen to creep up the coast past Mexico to CA by the end of July with an early August delivery. Painfully slow. Hopefully worth the wait.

elptex
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:06 am

To some degree that is true. Y'all may have put deposits down that long ago, but BMW didn't bring the i3 to the US market until just 1 month ago. So in consideration of vehicle in market, you're within a 2-3 month delivery window. No one in the UK has been less than 6 months.

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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:09 am

Zzzoom3 wrote:
i3Alan wrote:... mine at the port since 7/13, with no ship assigned yet, heading to AZ. When you say the next boat is the Otello, are you looking only at W&W boats? I understand there are one or two other shipping companies BMW uses to the west coast, some with smaller boats that move faster with fewer stops along the way, getting from Bremerhaven to LA in about 2 weeks.
BMW uses only Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics for vehicle shipping to U.S. Yes, they own more than 1 shipping line but you can do a search on their site for ships leaving one port and arriving in another. In this case, Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme. You will then see which ships will be on that route and the departure dates. Otello is the next ship to leave Bremerhaven for Port Hueneme (and points in between).
That leaves me more concerned than ever. After all, the Otello (https://www.2wglobal.com/global-network ... 805flb5NXs) can only hold a maximum of 6700 cars! Are you sure they will have room for a few more? :)

More seriously, how do you know only W&W is used? I have seen other BMW delivery discussions saying Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme is also served by NYK and K-Line, which are not part of the W&W lines, nor covered by the W&W search page.

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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:18 am

elptex wrote:I'm getting more and more pissed off that people in the US can order an i3 now and get it in 2 months...yet I ordered mine 3 months ago and still have 4 months to go! Bull shit. My frustration due to the need for a 2nd car has me seriously considering cancelling my order and getting something else.
The difference might have something to do with how the cars get ordered, not when. I have the impression that UK dealers don't actually own the cars, but act as agents, passing the orders on to BMW. A Brit placing an order waits the typical 4 to 7 months to get his or her i3. A Yank "placing an order" isn't really placing an order at all - he or she is getting the dealer (who placed the order for initial allotments on or about February 5, 2014) to modify an order that had already been placed. The BMW i3 has not been marketed much in the USA, almost nobody knows about it, and demand is generally pretty low, so many of these dealer owned vehicles actually made it through the pipeline and onto the showroom floor with nobody having claimed dibs. Certain configurations arrived more quickly than others. Those folks stumbling into a showroom, hearing about the i3 for the first time, and driving off in their new i3 the same day simply lucked out.

Not all Yanks have been that lucky. A deposit for my car was placed in August, 2013 with instructions to place the order the moment the dealer got his allotment, which he did on Feb 5. It finally got built last week, and I will not get it until late August or early September. Same 7 month wait as you, but unlike you, my delivery has no chance of getting moved up.

Had I been in Great Britain, the order would have gone in last fall, I would have taken delivery in the winter, and would have been driving it for a half year already.

Mike74jcw
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:47 am

i3Alan wrote:
Zzzoom3 wrote:
i3Alan wrote:... mine at the port since 7/13, with no ship assigned yet, heading to AZ. When you say the next boat is the Otello, are you looking only at W&W boats? I understand there are one or two other shipping companies BMW uses to the west coast, some with smaller boats that move faster with fewer stops along the way, getting from Bremerhaven to LA in about 2 weeks.
BMW uses only Wallenius Wilhelmsen Logistics for vehicle shipping to U.S. Yes, they own more than 1 shipping line but you can do a search on their site for ships leaving one port and arriving in another. In this case, Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme. You will then see which ships will be on that route and the departure dates. Otello is the next ship to leave Bremerhaven for Port Hueneme (and points in between).
That leaves me more concerned than ever. After all, the Otello (https://www.2wglobal.com/global-network ... 805flb5NXs) can only hold a maximum of 6700 cars! Are you sure they will have room for a few more? :)

More seriously, how do you know only W&W is used? I have seen other BMW delivery discussions saying Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme is also served by NYK and K-Line, which are not part of the W&W lines, nor covered by the W&W search page.
Yes, that's correct from what I know.............the lines used are W&W and NYK for sure, probably K-Line too but I'm not 100% sure about them. My car is currently on the W&W Torrens which will arrive in Port Jersey on Wednesday!
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:08 am

My car was definitely shipped on the NYK Cygnus Leader. NYK does not have the nice tracking tools like W&W.
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Zzzoom3
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:30 am

i3Alan wrote:I have seen other BMW delivery discussions saying Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme is also served by NYK and K-Line, which are not part of the W&W lines, nor covered by the W&W search page.
Yes you are correct. I had seen that also but supposedly they deliver mainly to the East Coast? This morning I called BMW iConcierge. Sure enough, my vehicle is on an NYK vessel (Lyra Leader) which left Bremerhaven on Saturday! It's due to Port Hueneme on 8/15. I would think the other folks here who's cars were at the port are also onboard. Call your dealer.
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i3Alan
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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:31 pm

Zzzoom3 wrote:
i3Alan wrote:I have seen other BMW delivery discussions saying Bremerhaven to Port Hueneme is also served by NYK and K-Line, which are not part of the W&W lines, nor covered by the W&W search page.
Yes you are correct. I had seen that also but supposedly they deliver mainly to the East Coast? This morning I called BMW iConcierge. Sure enough, my vehicle is on an NYK vessel (Lyra Leader) which left Bremerhaven on Saturday! It's due to Port Hueneme on 8/15. I would think the other folks here who's cars were at the port are also onboard. Call your dealer.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B5LVemn ... cslist_api
I was pulling up this site to say I just found out my i3 is on the NYK Lyra Leader, only to find you found the same!

Interestingly, according to BMW customer service today, it left Bremerhaven on July 19. Customer service told me on July 18 that it was sitting at the port, waiting for the next step, "hand to Munich" which, I presume, means it is waiting to get its ship assignment by someone in Munich, which is then followed by "assigned to ship" before it shows up as en route to US. I was also told it could be a few days between Munich and the ship assignment, followed by perhaps a couple weeks to get on the ship. I find it strange that customer support has so much detailed information, yet are so far behind on what is going on. I'm guessing that some time next week the web site might advance from "Production End" to "En Route to the U.S."

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Re: Do you have an i3 on order and awaiting delivery?

Mon Jul 21, 2014 12:42 pm

Just found some interesting tidbits about the NYK Lyra Leader, which is carrying some of our i3s across the pond now. This ship can carry 6500 cars, and uses all electric propulsion. I believe this refers to multiple torpedo like units with electric motors driving propellers, which can swivel underneath the ship. I doubt it is tapping into our i3 batteries, as it probably has an onboard generator!

If someone finds a good way to track it, please post. I would especially like to watch it transit the canal.

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